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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.07.16 15:39:00 -
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It is an extreme gamble investing 100m+ in a 3 day old character.
From our point of view you have nothing to lose by defaulting as you have no reputation to burn and your character is essentially worthless.
As you haven't submitted to an audit to verify any of your claims they must all be taken on blind trust. We have no proof that you are capable of trading and therefore no proof that you are capable of generating the required interest.
You offer no collateral and probably have none to offer. You probably have little to fall back on should your plan fail in a legitimate way.
You haven't put a great deal of effort in to this. If you are honest, then you are also naive and overly hasty. If you are dishonest, then you can add lazy to that list.
15% interest does not justify the risk at all. No amount of interest really could justify it. |

Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.07.16 15:54:00 -
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Mr Bushar wrote:Perfectly understandable, and at this point, I would agree that the risk is almost a gamble. It's worse than that.
If someone was to invest in you, regardless of wether you go on to honor your word, it's an open invite to anyone in EVE to create an alt and come to MD with a carbon copy of your proposal.
It would be irresponsible for anyone to invest in you, regardless of the direct outcome from this bond. |

Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.07.16 16:11:00 -
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Mr Bushar wrote:I don't understand - what is wrong with anyone in eve coming to MD and creating a proposal? It would fill the forum with scams which would overwhelm the legitimate offerings and further discourage people from comming here to invest their isk. This would be bad both for the legitimate MD community and the harder working scammers. Essentially a public relations disaster.
Mr Bushar wrote:It's called free choice, if someone wants to invest in risky bonds for higher returns, let them. That isn't free choice, it's an over-abundance of expensive choices. |

Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.07.16 16:12:00 -
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If someone braver than I want's to click that link, do let us all know what you find. |

Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.07.16 16:37:00 -
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Kailean wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:If someone braver than I want's to click that link, do let us all know what you find. It's just a spreadsheet. Shame, I was hoping for Rick Astley. |

Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.07.16 16:50:00 -
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Mr Bushar wrote:At this point, you can stop trolling in my thread. Well that's sure to work isn't it.
Please allow me to offer you a piece of advice:
Stop digging. |

Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.07.16 17:31:00 -
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Caelis Boirelle wrote:My conscience is making me add that on the off chance this really is a genuine offering, I'd take the amount of flaming you're getting as a sign that you're doing something wrong. Go back to the forums and check how other more successful bonds are structured, go back to the drawing board and come back when you've got something serious to offer. Seriously, this.
Most of the posters here mean you no ill. They are telling you in the traditional manner of MD that you are doing it wrong. You should stop doing it wrong and spend some time figuring out how to do it right.
You speak of trying to build a reputation, what do you want that reputation to be? That of an incompetent that blunders into the MD forums attempting to raise money, throws his toys out of the pram as soon as he meets resistance and yet doesn't know when to quit?
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Posted - 2012.07.17 05:27:00 -
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"General Melchett" wrote:If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through. |
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